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Official Discord Server for BDO SEA
Oct 16, 2019, 12:25 (UTC+8)
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Last Edited on : Oct 16, 2019 (UTC+8)
# 1

Why not make an official discord server for BDO SEA. I meant not the unofficial BDOSEA IHA. That one is unofficial and run by 3rd party

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Last Edited on : Oct 16, 2019 (UTC+8)
# 2

Yeah, I'd love for this to happen. An official Discord Server run by Pearl Abyss themselves (or at least the GMs). PA can also send their announcements there and to have their support tickets there, with that in mind, the GMs can also respond to those tickets directly (or other members/moderators can answer it as well).

 

Just like Kakao Games' Official Discord for Black Desert Online NA/EU.

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Last Edited on : Oct 26, 2019 (UTC+8)
# 3

This invites trouble.

In case you did not know, there was a ruckus months ago due to Kakao banning random people on thier discord because of something they did not agreed with.

 

https://community.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?threads/entire-guild-bans-being-threatened-for-individuals-actions-on-kakao-discord.405091/

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/aysawp/control_your_cms_and_gms_on_your_official_discord/ei37j2v/

 

Remember, SEA, TH, KR, RU is managed directly by PA. And having a discord directly maintained by PA will invite tons of trouble for them.


In business perspective, there's no point to do this, they generally doesnt care about our opinion or discussions but takes ideas from us without notice.

And in case issues like this occur, it will not look good to PA directly and gets shïtstorm by everyone, media included.

 

Also, as per experienced; Generally this bypasses "Tickets" as people will just constantly spam the GM directly in the said discord.

Think how much of an annoyance that is and hinders you to properly function and work as supposed to.

 

If they have planned this, they should have done this earlier without us suggesting this.
Even the forum needs to be updated. 
Start with this first.

A simple integratation of Xenforo/IPV or vBulletin should be easier for them.
Though I know they'll think about security risk but I believe they are more capable of blocking them in both frontend & backend.

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Last Edited on : Oct 26, 2019 (UTC+8)
# 4

yes, I agree with @jarette.

 

The Discord becomes like a GOOGLE search.

 

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Last Edited on : Oct 27, 2019 (UTC+8)
# 5

First of all, you looking down on manners of SEA players and comparing it against larger group of community. And I confident can say that while we SEA sound salty in game, we do keep manners on discord (e.g IHA discord server and other SEA discord servers)

 

Remember, SEA, TH, KR, RU is managed directly by PA. And having a discord directly maintained by PA will invite tons of trouble for them.

Well, Global Lab have it own official discord under supervision of GM Velia which is directly under PA. I can say that, players that mostly make a ruckus there are from western side. 

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Last Edited on : Oct 27, 2019 (UTC+8)
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Thank you @Aliya, I agree with you entirely. Thank you as well for pointing out the Global Lab Discord Server.

 

We can't let a couple of bad apples to ruin the whole barrel of apples. 

 

And besides, as @Aliya mentioned earlier, the majority of those "inappropriate behaviours" are from the Western Players.

 

If ever that this view that the SEA Community, or any other community that are indeed the ones being cancerous then Kakao Games should've just limited the joining process to those who are playing on the NA/EU servers and not invite other community like SEA, MENA, KR, TH, RU, JP, TW, etc. (Not to make the joining process internationally available).

 

Oh and about "a whole guild getting banned" or "random people getting banned," there was no definite way (as far as I know) to link discord with BDO. It was a mistake on the GM's behalf.

 

GM's response:

On reflection, I acted hastily after witnessing some horrific things in the Official Discord. Whilst the original behaviour of several members was totally unacceptable, I allowed emotion to affect my decision making in holding the many responsible for the actions of the few.

There were multiple incidents during the course of the evening that warranted stricter action than simply a Discord kick, some of those I was able to link to game accounts with certainty. (The Discord name was not it). However, the majority of people involved, I could not verify and it frustrated me. This led to me making a poor emotional decision in the moment and effectively lashing out at others. In that, I was wrong and I apologise.

My actions were in fact against policies I created myself.

However, I do stand by that if inappropriate behaviour occurs on our Discord group, that in-game sanctions can apply, after proper verification. I am determined to make our Discord a positive place that can provide a real benefit to you.

Once again, I apologise that I allowed my emotions to cloud my judgement.

 

src: https://community.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?threads/presenting-the-official-kakao-games-discord-now-open.386485/

 

They're still human, humans make mistakes, I admit that I thought they're fools to make such rash decisions about applying sanctions to the wrong people because of clouded judgement and not doing any proper verifications. But they're only fools, not stupid, they can learn from their mistakes.

 

A fool can learn, but stupidity is forever.

 

Aristophanes said, “Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness sobered, but stupid lasts forever.”

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Last Edited on : Oct 27, 2019 (UTC+8)
# 7

Have fun with the discord of well behaved players.

 

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Last Edited on : Oct 27, 2019 (UTC+8)
# 8

@Aliya

Global Labs, is well Global Labs.
Of course GMs are able to manage and frequent that platform as its vital for the game's development.

If you do that in an official platform for official live servers, the outcome differs.

 

You guys are naive and glorifying SEA player's behavior.
I guess you've not seen them at worst cases so far.

 

Im not against your suggestion all Im saying is that there's no merit in this for PA.

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Last Edited on : Oct 27, 2019 (UTC+8)
# 9

I cant edit my post wtf.

If ever that this view that the SEA Community, or any other community that are indeed the ones being cancerous then Kakao Games should've just limited the joining process to those who are playing on the NA/EU servers and not invite other community like SEA, MENA, KR, TH, RU, JP, TW, etc. (Not to make the joining process internationally available).

@someone who thinks he can block people from joining groups & discord

Let me see you try blócking people from joining groups & discords using fâke accounts & with Proxïes and let me know how it worked out.

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Last Edited on : Oct 27, 2019 (UTC+8)
# 10

You know there's this thing called "screening" process and "filtering" right?

 

Bring out forms, ask for their in-game names, cross-reference them out. You have that process on your Facebook group right? Making them join your discord server before accepting their application to your Facebook group? But instead of in-game names, you request their discord IDs. Unless you just discard that form and just accept anyone who joins your Facebook group regardless if they're at your Discord server.

 

That's why there are "screening" processes and "filtering."

 

They have their "fake accounts" and "proxies?" Then let them, at least there are "screening" processes and "filters."

 

The forms and cross-referencing processing will take place before giving them an expiring discord server invite.

 

As someone who worked on both at the public and private sector, especially the thankless public sector, those government agencies, I know that hardship, the processes, and the neverending "cancerous attitudes" of people, not just from SEA, but internationally.

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